I am searching for common as well as obscure notations and anecdodes regarding "circles". Any information that anyone can pass on, text references, URL's, personal anecdotes would be greatly appreciated. Please cc me your note to the following email address:

monkeys@execulink.com

Thank you in advance,
Barb.

I'm looking for information regarding the seventh daughter as a healer, midwife, or witch; healing traditions or anything related to this. Supposedly an old Irish belief before Christianity and after, practice in secret. Please send info to Nettie341@home.com

If I recall properly, it was the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter was supposed to have magical powers. They made a movie on the subject in the late Seventies.

The seventh son of a seventh son is a concept familiar to most Irish. The appear to have powers of healing.
There are one or two who tour the country. (Or maybe just one :)
In the modern age, 7 kids would be unusual (even if not all same sex)

He tours as 'the seventh sons of a seventh son'? hmmmm I have a 'third son of a third son' do ya think there is a market for him?

I am doing an exhibition on superstitions, old wives tales, vampires etc.... does anybody know where I can find any real artefacts, paintings etc... i.e. from museums in uk. help now!!! please.

.. as i said ..I have a third son, of a third son .. how much will he fetch? *grin*

I am doing a seminar on Elizabethan theatre & am trying to find out about the superstitions they belived in as it played a big part in theatre. If you know ANYTHING that would be relevent, please, please let me know!! Please send info to i.h.cudmore@bgc.ac.uk

Many thanks!

hey .. my 'third son of a third son' didn't even rate a mention .. ya think they are gonna answer Elizabethan thangies?

Good Luck *smile*

The last time I answered a question dealing with England, the board was in an uproar for weeks, I think I'll sit to the side on this one. Lacie, I don't think Children are fetching much in the world markets today.

Greetings everyone i am new to this site so if i ask a wrong question please forgive me.
The question im curiose about is a term i have read in several books conserning elves and them going west,is this a modern fabrication or is there somthing from mythology that speaks of this. The only thing that i can find about this kind of withdrawel has to do with a division of the land into upper and lower with the Tuathe D'e retiring to the lower and the gaels controlling the upper portion
P.S.i have found the the subject about elves is about as stable as quicksand "grin" and as to who and what they were depends pretty much on who was was doing the writing: ever in friendship tully

Tully: when i was young (ok younger i'm only 16) one of my foster fathers told me the "little ppl" had to leave when the Christians came. he said they came here to the New World as an escape. was anyone else told this?

http://www.irelandseye.com/animation/intro.html

Thankyou my friend ive also heard that and i feel that i own an appology to you all for not making clear my need what im after is written information as to to when this exodus took place.
The reason is that what ive found is that the subject "elves" is not a cut and dry one and the name elf is not truly celtic in its self and i say this in this manner is because the name elf is a modern form coming from two sources that ive been able to determine the first is old english "aelf" and the second is old norse "alfr"and while both of the languages are old i think that the celts being the well travel people they were just might have had influence even in this name "smile" but im no expert and this a romantic thought only.
Over the years most writers have taken the liberal attitude to construct a being of vast magical powers and weakness as they see fit for example in old tales elves shunned the light of the full sun and were unable to touch cold iron and even the slightest scratch from iron had grave consiquences.
Most modern writers have chosen to to ignore these weaknesses and in doing so have in a nut shell basically created humans with pointed ears with major magical ablity,another point of interest is the matter of size the tuatha of celt mythology were reported as beings of tall stature while a host of lesser folk ie the brownies leprachans and such were creatures of very small size.My veiw on this"and this is just my veiw i wish to ruffle no feathers" is i think that a lot of modern writers have chosen to lump them all togather and extract an average hence we have today a human with pointy ears vast magical ablity and stands about five feet tall, or a short vulcan with illogical powers."Laugh"
This though is getting a way from my search im just curiose about the term "went west" did they in fact go to the americas',did they die or did they manage to some how manage to leave our mortal plane and find some place else to live.the last is my preference but thats the lover of a good story peeking out.

Glad you found a place on the message boards, tully *s*. I would have thought 'going west' would mean further west, rather than the Wild West?? *grin*. We are talking some time past here, right?

I am sure Shae, Accasbel and others can lead you west, tully. Stay tuned.

p.s. I have chatted with Tully .. i KNOW how long that would have taken to type!! *LOL*

Hi Tully

As far as I know, elves are part of northern European (Scandinavian/Germanic/Saxon) mythology. They do not feature in Irish folklore or mythology. The Tuatha Dé Danann were, in the Irish myths, the inhabitants of Ireland before the arrival of the Milesians. After a battle between the two, the Tuatha Dé Danann and the Milesians agreed to share Ireland between them. The Tuatha Dé claimed the underground and the Milesians took the overground.

As for the elves going west, it could be that they followed the Saxons westward to England in the Middle Ages. They weren't known in Ireland until they were introduced by Anglo-Irish fairytale writers in the 19th century. However, the myth of the elves could easily have been carried to the New World by emigrants from northern European countries during the 16th and subsequent centuries.

For Celtic and Germanic cultures the West had a "holy" connotation. Dying associated w/ going west.

I thank you all for your help a it was a apprisiated its just that......
Im a blue collar scholar
a working class stiff
with a deep seated love
for a tale
and well written word
is a fey thing indeed
it works a magic
that never grows stale

in a moment im gone
as i sit in my chair
as i read those
well written words
im ages away and
miles from my seat
in a book i can
fly like the birds

a good book is like
a fairy mound
in a moment a
morning went by....?
I still a moment linger
page beneath my finger
then gently close my
written friend and sigh.
:Tully
i hope this will help explain i would like to read the information im looking for the books so i can read it. ever in friendship. Tully
P.S. lacie dont get big headed on me just because you can type faster than me.*grin* i will give you that point.but just that one only be safe my friend

*pokes tongue at tully* .. i am very, very patient when we chat!! so there!

I like, very much, what you have written ... well, except for the p.s.

Hey
Does anyone know if there is a myth conected to the "log na sionna" it's suppose to be the sorce of the Shannon river, if I remember right in english it means "The pot" but of course, I could be completly wrong.

Tully,

Read "American Gods" by Neil Gaiman. That will answer lots of your questions.

i heard about a legend in ireland about the seven daughters. they were each supposed to have a magical power and the seveth was supposed to have the greatest. they were al eventually killed by their stepmother or someone. does anyone know this legend and if so do you know the details? thanks.

Hi, hope you can help, I have to do a presentation for a course I'm doing, and I decided to do it on the types of people that would have 'cures' ie: cure of thrush - a person whose father died before they were born. I'm getting nowhere in my google/ask.com searches. What are the other situations would give a person these type of powers?
Can anyone help me please??

Thanks